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Gammel 12-07-2006, 12:17
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Maybe I'm missing something but I don't think Liedloff is a proponent of CIO in any way...
The whole first part of the book is about how horrible it feels from the baby's perspective to be left alone to cry, isn't it? (been a while since I read it)
Now if the question here is whether her idea that toddlers should follow and not lead the activities, and if that in our society leads to whining and crying because the toddler doesn't want to follow our activities... maybe it's because of an imbalance in the kind of lifestyle we have? ***NOT SAYING WE SHOULD ALL LIVE LIKE A YEQUANA INDIAN TRIBE*** I'm just saying that maybe the society we live in, with its divisions based on age, creates more situations where our activities are uninteresting for a toddler, or where we don't even want our children to learn what we're doing, or maybe other people around us don't want the children to be there even if we do? There are lots of outside pressures that make me act in ways that ends up with my kids feeling restless and whiny. I don't feel that I'm acting fully by my instincts in those situations, but I make choices to fit into society in the ways I want to fit in... because that makes life more liveable overall for me...

SO my interpretation of this toddler thing is not that when the child breaks down and is upset over something that you should leave them there in the middle of the street crying while strangers walk past and cars drive by... but more that I should try to structure my life so that it's interesting for my toddlers to be around me, participating in the activities I do, and when I do something where they're not welcome or where society doesn't understand the limits of their participation, then I just pick them up, tie them on my back, find them a toy, something to help them get through that moment that suits their level...
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Jeg har iallefall fått nytt syn på det hele. Virker som om Liedloffs teorier har mye for seg, men mer som eksepler på hvordan gjøre ting enn konkrete ting å gjøre.

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I like talking about this stuff.

just reading over my past post above and i think it sounds a little agressive. I'm writing from work and not much time to formulate my sentences, so it's just quick and dirty writing. Hope you'll take the best intentions from it.
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Det gjør jeg

Syntes ikke posten var særlig aggressiv... det er omtrent på den måten jeg kommuniserer i "nøytral" stilling.

Liten digresjon: I de fleste foreldrebøker er det snakk om å gjøre ting med konkrete eksempler. Om det skjer, gjør ditt, om derimot det skjer, gjør datt. Da blir det veldig uvant å lese noe som viser til en annen kultur som eksempel, men ikke nødvendigvis konkrekte løsninger på konkrete problemer, som man som regel finner "alle" andre plasser.
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